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		<title>Oracle buys BEA</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[So, BEA and Oracle have come to a price both can agree on &#8211; I did blog this a while ago, and after destroying my wordpress install have managed to lose the original post.
So when I say &#8220;Well I reckoned that $20.00 a share was going to be the magic number, but hey I was [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, BEA and Oracle have come to a price both can agree on &#8211; I did blog this a while ago, and after destroying my wordpress install have managed to lose the original post.</p>
<p>So when I say &#8220;Well I reckoned that $20.00 a share was going to be the magic number, but hey I was pretty close given it went for $19.38!&#8221; It&#8217;s ok to say &#8220;You lying little scamp, you&#8217;re just saying that&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>But I did. Honest!</p>
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<p>/* I&#8217;ve now managed to find a back-up of the original thinkovation database, and have restored the original <a href="http://www.thinkovation.com/blog/index.php/2007/10/12/23/">Oracle/BEA Post</a> */</p>
<p>My wordpress incompetence aside&#8230;</p>
<p>I still think that this is a good thing&#8230; But there are plenty of challenges ahead of the Oracle and BEA teams. I know it&#8217;s ancient history, but I have painful memories of going to visit the NetDynamics and Netscape (Kiva) teams at Sun, soon after the &#8220;merged&#8221; app server was announced. I ended up meeting the teams separately &#8211; and got the impression that all the NetDynamics guys really wanted to talk about was how rubbish Kiva was, and the Kiva guys did  the opposite..</p>
<p>Back to today&#8230; There are now two pretty rich and fully fledged middleware offerings in the mix;</p>
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<li>Oracle&#8217;s Fusion is strong but badly described, and hasn&#8217;t got much traction outside Oracle&#8217;s well understood and well sold-to customer base.</li>
<li>BEA&#8217;s Aqualogic story is also strong&#8230; and better described</li>
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<p>The problem now is &#8230;. how do you merge the two technology sets&#8230; Ellison is quoted in a <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/01/17/AR2008011700038.html">Washington Post article</a> as saying that while both companies have &#8220;numerous&#8221; middleware offerings, BEA&#8217;s line is nonetheless &#8220;overwhelmingly complementary,&#8221;.</p>
<p>I guess that I&#8217;d say that if I was Larry Ellison too &#8211; But it&#8217;s really not that accurate a statement&#8230;</p>
<p>As Micheal Meehan points out in his <a href="http://soa-talk.blogs.techtarget.com/2008/01/16/oracle-buys-bea-now-the-hard-work-begins/trackback/">commentary</a> if the deal goes through Oracle will be the proud owner of;<br />
2 ESB products</p>
<p>2 BPM products</p>
<p>2 Portals</p>
<p>2 SOA stacks</p>
<p>2 Data integration platforms</p>
<p>2 Development tools</p>
<p>Even if you step back and let your eyes go out of focus&#8230; that&#8217;s still two pretty overlapping sets of technology.</p>
<p>In fairness, Oracle has a better track record than some (Sun for instance) where it comes to taking the tough decisions that are needed when merging products  &#8211; and it&#8217;s going to have some tough decisions to make.</p>
<p>Meanwhile &#8211; IBM&#8217;s Websphere still has the #1 slot, by some margin. At best Oracle bumps up to #2 in the J2EE middleware space &#8211; And to number three if you talk about platform middleware and don&#8217;t exclude Microsoft&#8217;s .NET &#8211; Which by my (admittedly wet finger in the air) reckoning is grossly overlooked, or grossly under-estimated by most analysts.</p>
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